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Geocentrism: The Torah’s cosmology

How can we know what’s really true, in this world of lies?

The short answer is: only with great difficulty, and a lot of sincere prayers to not be misled, and not to mislead others.

(And even then, we might still get it wrong and trip up…)

But Rav Natan Sternhartz, Rebbe Nachman’s main pupil, taught another very useful rule of thumb for knowing where the truth really lies.

He taught: If something brings you closer to God, then it’s ‘true’.

And if it takes you further away from God, then it’s not.


He was talking more about figuring out the wiles of the yetzer hara, which berates people for not being ‘perfect’, and not being super-duper frum, and for not being always 100% upbeat and ‘positive’ about everything, etc etc etc.

Sure, mitzvah gadolah le’hiyot be simcha tamid – it’s an enormous mitzvah to always be happy, under all circumstances.

But it’s also a very, very high spiritual level, and when the yetzer comes along and starts telling you how badly you are doing, because you feel scared about what’s going on, or you are wobbling in your emuna, or your frustration is reaching boiling point, and right now, you are kind of struggling to feel ‘happy’ with the situation –

At that point, a person has to do a lot of hitbodedut about what is really going on, and to get real about what they are actually feeling and experiencing internally.

Because going through that process, and bringing all that fear, anger, frustration and despair back to God puts God bang, slap back in the middle of all those bad middot.

And just like that, we find ourselves brought closer to Hashem again, and under His wing.


But if we don’t do that, and we just ‘carry on up the Geula’ without acknowledging all our bad middot, and our credible fears – then instead of bringing us closer to Hashem, and closer to pouring our hearts out before Him truthfully, including all the yucky stuff, ‘trying to be positive’ and ‘trying to be happy all the time’ actually leads us away from God.

And away from living life as our authentic selves.

And that is no mitzvah at all.


Rav Natan’s dictum can also apply to information coming in from the outside.

If you have information that suggests that the world operates according to the Torah’s account of creation, that stands to reason it’s going to strengthen  your faith in the Creator, and bring you closer to God.

And the opposite is also true.

Which brings me to the idea of ‘geocentrism’ vs ‘heliocentrism’.


The blog is not keeping up with my reading, but to cut a very long story short, ‘heliocentrism’ – the idea that the earth revolves around the sun – has ALWAYS been a pagan, anti-Torah idea.

It was in Egypt before it got to Greece, and ‘sun worship’ has been a standard feature of most pagan religions since the dawn of time.

BH, at some point I will put more meat on these basic bones, but heliocentrism has ALWAYS been a tool to pry people away from God, and away from the Torah’s account of creation.

There is literally nothing new under the sun.


So, when we read all these accounts from NASA, and all this stuff from ‘astronomers’, and all this stuff from demonically-inspired mystics ‘channelling’ the ‘wisdom of Atlantis’ about how the universe is really working…..

We have to stop for a moment, and see what all these people are saying in relation to heliocentrism.

If their version of the world is based on the idea that the earth is circling the sun, we already know they are totally wrong about a huge component of their assumed ‘space reality’.

And if they can’t get something as basic as this right…. then why should we believe anything else they say?

Even if they aren’t deliberately going out to decieve and tear down the Torah’s account of creation – which at this point, is a huge ‘if’ – why would we trust the ideas of people who are clearly not dealing with the Torah’s version of reality?


BH, more and more people out there are starting to trust the whisperings of their soul, telling them that NASA and ‘heliocentrism’,  and ‘space aliens’ and all the rest is anti-Torah baloney.

But it’s still a very difficult birur, because the brainwashing starts so young, and is so all-encompassing.

On that score, I came across this video, that clearly shows footage of the sun streaking above the stationary earth.

To be clear, Torah sources allow for the earth to be all sorts of shapes, including flat and spherical.

But what no-one argues about is that the earth is the centre of creation, and that the sun revolves around us – geocentrism – not the other way around.


Take a look, especially from the 12 minute mark onwards, if you are in a rush.

God literally created the whole world for us.

Just, the Evils keep trying to tell us it’s all random, pointless, meaningless…

Don’t believe them.


PS: It’s interesting to see the Youtube ‘damage limitation’ going on around the idea of geocentrism.

Here’s the ‘context’ they stuck underneath this video, above:


Take note of the name ‘Pythagoras’, in relation to the ‘spherical earth’ idea.

We will come back to him shortly.

His name pops up a lot, when dealing with black magic masquerading as pseudo-science – and that’s still happening today.



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8 replies
    • Rivka Levy
      Rivka Levy says:

      From what I understand, the sun is on a spiralling curve inwards for half the year, then starts to spiral outward for the other half of the year.

      I’ll see if I can find something that shows that – it’s a good question, though, thanks.


      My youtube is blocking the address (always a good sign…), but search for ‘Rob Skiba How the 4 seasons work on the Flat Earth model’

      I can see it via my Yandex browser, but apparently I can’t get the link or share it.

      Also, take a look at this:


      Walter Bislins actually believes the earth is a globe – as we keep saying here, both options and more are acceptable according to Torah teachings, as long as it’s the sun that is revolving around the earth, and not the other way around.

  1. Simon
    Simon says:

    If the “speed of light” as known is correct, then within a second.
    Also, the one way speed of light isn’t known, so maybe just instantly.

  2. Nachum
    Nachum says:

    It can be whatever you call it, but if it’s true, it’s true. As Galileo said when they forced him to ‘recant,” “even so, it moves.”


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