Prayer to avoid anger and slander against background of a snake

Another timely prayer from the ravberland.com site

Heads up, they are putting together an A-Z index of prayers written by Rabbi Eliezer Berland over on the site, HERE.

Each week, they are trying to put a few more English translations of the Rav’s prayers up, because a little while back the Rav said that very big things, spiritually, depend on more of these prayers getting out into the world.

Today, they just put up a new prayer to recite if you want to avoid getting angry, or pulled into slandering other Jews – which is just so easy to do, with the evil internet.

It spoke to me a lot, so I’m replicating it below:

Prayer to avoid anger and slander against background of a snake

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Also, as I promised I would do at the end of this post, I’ve written out the first part of the sources from the Gemara Tractate Sanhedrin 97b. I thought it was a very good resource to share widely, so I’ve posted it up on my blog over the ravberland site HERE.

If you can’t be bothered to read the whole thing, this is a very brief summary of what it says:

Summing up the discussion between Rabbi Eliezer and Rabbi Yehoshua in Sanhedrin 97b:

Rabbi Eliezer is arguing that the Jewish people have to make real, self-motivated teshuva for the geula to come, and so Hashem will wait as long as it takes for this to happen (like maybe, even another 200 years….)

Rabbi Yehoshua is arguing that there is a ‘fixed’ time for the geula, or end of days, to occur, and if the Jewish people haven’t made the necessary teshuva by that point Hashem will bring massive tribulations to the world to ‘force’ them to repent ahead of the deadline for geula. Whoever makes it through these tribulations will then make it to geula and Zion, i.e. Israel.

Rabbi Eliezer tries to argue, but eventually he concedes that Rabbi Yehoshua is correct.

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Are Chazal also ‘scaremongering?”

That is the question.

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UPDATE:

A comment from Orna prompted this response. After I wrote it, I thought I should actually stick it up as an addendum to this post. Enough with all the pettiness and machloket, already! Are all of us so ‘fixed’ we have nothing better to do than keep pointing out issues in other people? The whole world is just a mirror. Whenever we’re slagging someone else off, some other group of Jews off, we’re really just talking about ourselves.

Who cares what group of Jews Moshiach ‘belongs’ to, as long as he just shows up already? Tzaddikim are not football teams, that you can only support one side. ALL our Tzaddikim are beloved and valuable. BH, Rabbi Berland will last the distance and be able to make the jump from ‘hezkat Moshiach’ to the full thing.

If he doesn’t manage to rebuild the temple and ingather all the exiles – then he will be just the potential Moshiach of the generation. That’s all! No big deal. No need for all this crazy hysteria. Until the temple is rebuilt, no-one can say with 100% certainty who the Moshiach was.

All we know is that he’ll be the leader of the generation, and he can’t come back from the dead. Apart from that, none of us are any wiser. In the meantime, I think Rabbi Berland has the best shot of being Moshiach in our generation, and it’s no sin – at all! – to say that and publicize it.

All these people talking about ‘false messiahs’ – it’s all just a reflection of their own issues, their own problems. May God help us all to find the inner peace we need to stop turning Moshiach into some sort of ridiculous competition.

We are surrounded on all sides by people who hate us. If even we observant Jews are letting the crazy nutjobs in our midst stir trouble between us all the time, to prevent us from sticking together, what hope is there, really, of getting geula the sweet way?

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Orna, the more I think about all this, the more I think it’s just a ‘plan’ from the Sitra Achra to keep Jews at each other’s throats. There are always questions around the biggest Tzaddikim, that’s just how it is. They are operating in a realm that is far, far above what us mere mortals can grasp. The more honest amongst us will admit that.

I’m personally very uncomfortably with any suggestion that a Beit HaMikdash could be anywhere except Jerusalem. However, I’m not going to write off a whole bunch of Jews who believe that it could be in New York, even though I totally disagree with that idea myself.

In the Gemara, we see time and time again how the Tannaim had massive disagreements with each other about some very important issues. We can disagree about all these things without going at each other’s throats and starting to say other Jews aren’t ‘kosher’, or aren’t ‘Jewish enough’.

Who are we to judge? We can’t see inside people’s neshamas to know what’s really going on.

In the Gemara (Tractate Ketubot 103a), the students of Rebbe Yehuda HaNasi the Prince were so upset at his death, they made a decree that anyone who says that Rebbe Yehuda was dead should be stabbed with a knife:

“It is related that on the day that Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi died, the Sages decreed a fast, and begged for divine mercy so that he would not die. And they said: Anyone who says that Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi has died will be stabbed with a sword.”

That same Tractate explains how Yehuda HaNasi used to come back to his home for Shabbat AFTER HE DIED, to make kiddush with his family:

“The Gemara explains: Every Shabbat eve, even after his passing, Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi would come to his house as he had done during his lifetime, and he therefore wished for everything to be set up as usual. The Gemara relates the following incident: It happened on a certain Shabbat eve that a neighbor came by and called and knocked at the door. His maidservant said to her: Be quiet, for Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi is sitting. When he heard his maidservant reveal his presence to the neighbor, he did not come again, so as not to cast aspersions on earlier righteous individuals who did not appear to their families following their death.”

I agree there’s some very important clarifications and distinctions that need to be brought out with all this.

Dead tzaddikim cannot be Moshiach, that’s what the Rambam ruled, and that’s the halacha we all follow.

At the same time, Tzaddikim are greater after their deaths than they are in their lifetime, and their souls are active in the world, and accessible, in some way to those of us left behind.

Christianity stole a lot of these – the deepest! – ideas in authentic yiddishkeit and warped them to their own ends. We need to clarify things so we can get them back into their right space, spiritually.

At the same time, after I started researching all this stuff with Chabad conversions being maligned and questioned, etc it made me very upset.

The people who led the charge against Chabad after the Rebbe died also had a very obvious agenda to ridicule and disparage chassidut generally, because it didn’t fit their unspiritual approach to yiddishkeit.

That’s why I brought this Gemara, to show that a lot of the attacks against Chabad have originated from ignorance of our Torah sources (at best…)

We can disagree with other Jews, without getting into personal attacks.

This isn’t directed specifically at you, btw, Orna, just this is what has flowed out of my finger tips as a result of your comment.

The true tzaddikim are all working together to bring geula the sweetest way possible, in ways the rest of us can’t even understand.

Our job is just to keep our mouths shut, work on overcoming our own bad middot and to give EVERY TZADDIK their due respect, regardless of whether he’s ‘our’ Tzaddik or not.

That’s part of what I like so much about Breslov. They respect every Torah sage out there, Litvak, Sephardi, Karlin – whatever it is.

The label doesn’t matter, just what’s in people’s hearts.

 

12 replies
  1. Orna Nitzevet
    Orna Nitzevet says:

    Bs”d
    Truly, when i read the previeus post, i felt depressed…what 200 more years?
    With all the phones and freak technology nanochips, man made virus vaccines, dead worshipping, cyborgs, there are no humans left!!
    But when i read the word SCAREMONGERING i understood now!
    Please make it clear, and you cannot say it enough! TSHUVA MEANS ALSO TO COME BACK.
    TO COME BACK TO HASHEM can be done in our time just to come back, to ERETZ YISRAEL.
    The SCHINA is no more outside.
    Its concentrated here! 36=72 is here.
    And no mater how difficult it is here, it is here where we are able to do MIZTVOT.
    Tzadikim are no more outside of ERETZ YISRAEL, not even the ones left in bet kfarot.
    They came true tunnels back home and the reshaiym went same way out.
    BET HA MIKDASH IS READY right in front of us, waiting….for us! Do you feel the KDUSHA OF IT?
    SHIRAT HA ASAVIM….
    Here, not somewhere else.
    The CENTRUM OF THE WORLD IS HIS PLACE and it is very clear where it is!
    I got a meassge about BET HA MIKDASH WAITING IN NEW YORK, thats why they won’t come…
    So i pray if this is the reason that my real brothers and sisters are still waiting outside there and not making REAL TSHUVA, that HASHEM make them clear, that its not that case.
    Please, please Hashem! let the whole world see that you are HASHEM! and no one can change your words!
    I don’t want any tuma from NEW YORK, but i want my sisters and brothers back here with us!
    ABBA DO SOMETHING!
    ENOUGH!
    PLEASE!
    JERUSALEM.
    The seat of SCHINA.
    The TRUTH WILL BE KNOWN by all, and not everyone agree with it!
    Gog u magog…
    is just that.
    Not letting anything/anyone between us and HASHEM!
    Not even a distant land.
    That’s the real and only tshuva.
    TSHUVA SHLEMA.

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    • Rivka Levy
      Rivka Levy says:

      Orna, the more I think about all this, the more I think it’s just a ‘plan’ from the Sitra Achra to keep Jews at each other’s throats. There are always questions around the biggest Tzaddikim, that’s just how it is. They are operating in a realm that is far, far above what us mere mortals can grasp. The more honest amongst us will admit that.

      I’m personally very uncomfortably with any suggestion that a Beit HaMikdash could be anywhere except Jerusalem. However, I’m not going to write off a whole bunch of Jews who believe that it could be in New York, even though I totally disagree with that idea myself.

      In the Gemara, we see time and time again how the Tannaim had massive disagreements with each other about some very important issues. We can disagree about all these things without going at each other’s throats and starting to say other Jews aren’t ‘kosher’, or aren’t ‘Jewish enough’.

      Who are we to judge? We can’t see inside people’s neshamas to know what’s really going on.

      In the Gemara (Tractate Ketubot 103a), the students of Rebbe Yehuda HaNasi the Prince were so upset at his death, they made a decree that anyone who says that Rebbe Yehuda was dead should be stabbed with a knife:

      “It is related that on the day that Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi died, the Sages decreed a fast, and begged for divine mercy so that he would not die. And they said: Anyone who says that Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi has died will be stabbed with a sword.”

      That same Tractate explains how Yehuda HaNasi used to come back to his home for Shabbat AFTER HE DIED, to make kiddush with his family:

      “The Gemara explains: Every Shabbat eve, even after his passing, Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi would come to his house as he had done during his lifetime, and he therefore wished for everything to be set up as usual. The Gemara relates the following incident: It happened on a certain Shabbat eve that a neighbor came by and called and knocked at the door. His maidservant said to her: Be quiet, for Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi is sitting. When he heard his maidservant reveal his presence to the neighbor, he did not come again, so as not to cast aspersions on earlier righteous individuals who did not appear to their families following their death.”

      I agree there’s some very important clarifications and distinctions that need to be brought out with all this. Dead tzaddikim cannot be Moshiach, that’s what the Rambam ruled.

      At the same time, Tzaddikim are greater after their deaths than they are in their lifetime, and the souls are active in the world, and accessible, in some way to those of us left behind.

      Christianity stole a lot of these – the deepest! – ideas in authentic yiddishkeit and warped them to their own ends. We need to clarify things so we can get them back into their right space, spiritually.

      At the same time, after I started researching all this stuff with Chabad conversions being maligned and questioned, etc it made me very upset. The people who led the charge against Chabad after the Rebbe died also had a very obvious agenda to ridicule and disparage chassidut generally, because it didn’t fit their unspiritual approach to yiddishkeit.

      That’s why I brought this Gemara, to show that a lot of the attacks against Chabad have originated from ignorance of our Torah sources (at best…)

      We can disagree with other Jews, without getting into personal attacks.

      This isn’t directed specifically at you, btw, Orna, just this is what has flowed out of my finger tips as a result of your comment.

      The true tzaddikim are all working together to bring geula the sweetest way possible, in ways the rest of us can’t even understand. Our job is just to keep our mouths shut, work on overcoming our own bad middot and to give EVERY TZADDIK their due respect, regardless of whether he’s ‘our’ Tzaddik or not.

      That’s part of what I like so much about Breslov. They respect every Torah sage out there, Litvak, Sephardi, Karlin – whatever it is. The label doesn’t matter, just what’s in people’s hearts.

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      • Orna Nitzevet
        Orna Nitzevet says:

        Bs”d
        Chas v shalom we will write off any Jew in galut! We are all one.
        That’s why we must pray for them to do tshuva, to come here, even if that means they go against the words of a Rabbi that already left. But more then that, we must pray for them to get the yearning to RETURN first! They must want it! There are people in galut that where born from Jewish mother line or did complete halachic conversion. These must come back. They are one of us, no mater to wich streaming they belong.
        What you describe about RABBI YUDA HA NASSI, the only one in his generation who was truly from the line of DAVID HA MELEH and a Tzadik at the same time, he came back just the first year, and that is not normal just for Tzadikim, but also for loving mothers and family members.(Just the first year) What his followers, that believed that he is the potential mashiah, did with that is discusting. But we know that beside couple of individuals in that time, everyone was on a very low level. So they where scared. And still it did not give the right to act like they did. Now we see, that when we rebuke ( and we must do it to get them back) our brothers and sisters to come back to ERETZ YISRAEL, they get sometimes agressive, abusive and in denile.
        The NILE…
        The world is being damaged and destroyed just because of us, becuase we do not return as ONE. I am happy that RABBI NACHMAN said to us that he is not the mashiah, just half of it!
        Why????
        Imagine, all the Breslevers waiting in UKRAINA, waiting for him to come back, while being in the tuma of a foreign land instead of ERETZ YISRAEL. Imagine that Rabbi Berland himself will not be here but living in Ukraina becuase after more then 70 years, we still wait for RABEINU TO COME BACK, TO BE OUR MASHIAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
        Would you not care about all of these and tell them to come back????
        Wakey, wakey, its here in ERETZ YISRAEL we supose to be, not in galut.
        I learn from the teachings of Rabbi Nachman, becuase his logica is the most close to me. I keep the HALACHOT OF YALKUT YOSEF as much as i can, becuase i saw THE PRINCE on my journey (coma) to there. There was no one else, just the MOTEK, Maran Ovadia, saiyng to me: ‘go back, go back, everything is going to be Ok…’
        I spoke with some SATMAR family time ago, years ago, she also returned against the will of her father, a very influental figure. Why? Becuase she fell THE KDUSHA OF ERETZ YISRAEL. But we must tell them! We must help them to wake up! We must care about them enough to take the humiliation of their rage when they understand, that they need to go for the real deal!
        No NILUS…LET IT GO!
        So when just one sister or brother read this….HASHEM GAVE YOU HIS DAUGHER, borrowed to you, please, please i beg you, bring her back! She is in great danger out there. And she is so precieus!
        Its your NESHAMA, its HA TORAH, EVERY KOSHER JEW IS HA TORAH!
        Bring it back now you still can. Open your eyes and see, there NOTHING BUT HASHEM, there is nothing more outside of the KDUSHA OF ERETZ YISRAEL. Come home, here we are safe! Return, please! Tshuva shlema.

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        • Orna Nitzevet
          Orna Nitzevet says:

          Bs”d
          I dont know if you know anything about KAMENECKO and the group that worshipped Jaacov Frenkel. He was also descendant of the MAHARAL, like BESHT.
          There came a time that the KOZAKS started to burn our places and rape, attack our people. Guess what, most of these attacked where from this group who started to worship Jaacov Frankel.
          I found out that after 200? years some of his family members returned and live in ERETZ YISRAEL. They had to go true Hlachic conversion.
          Rabbi Nachman was the one, who did not wanted to shup up and let them do whatever they want, he went to their place in secret to speak with Jaacov and give them last chance, becuase he cared about every JEW. This was the moment that helped him to warn us, that he is not the mashiah himself, To prevent any idol/dead worship after he will leave, and he went on his journey to ERETZ YISRAEL.
          A real TZADIK! He cared about us not to fall in idol worshipping.
          It was not I, I the rebbe, but we, we AM YISRAEL! When we forget from where we come, when we forget Yaacov AVINU, Yosef ha Tzadik…it is a problem. When we think someone is greater then Moshe Rabeinu, when we deny that the Torah is of Moshe Rabeinu and Yehoshua, then something is missing from our memory, or is it becuase of idol worship??
          We do not call the Torah the Torah of Rabbi Nachman, right? Its still the Torah of Moshe Rabeinu, the whole ORAH ORAITA. a Jew is like CHUMASH in galut if he/she is lucky, but just here we become ORAH ORAITA by connecting with each other. Same way as a JEW IS A JEW IS A JEW outside….but only HERE we can unite and be ONE, not in Galut. Not near NILUS! Rabbi Nachman knew it. Every real Tzadik of AM YISRAEL know this. Every Tzadik of Am Yisrael have the spark of Moshe Rabeinu in him.

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        • Rivka Levy
          Rivka Levy says:

          Orna, ‘rebuke’ doesn’t work on anyone in our generation.

          Praying for people, and seeing the good in them, and encouraging them, is the only way to go.

          Rebbe Nachman told us in Lesson 282 of Likutey Moharan that the only way to get people to Hashem is Azamra, to see the good. Once we know that even Tannaim, people on the level of Rebbe’s students, found it very hard to let go of their Rebbe, that gives us much more insight into what is going on here, and why.

          Is it right for people to still think a tzaddik who died three decades ago is going to come back as Moshiach? Nope.

          Is it that big a deal? Personally, I don’t think so. I used to think it was awful, terrible, atrocious, idol worship and all the rest, but once I got my own ego and need to be ‘right’ and ‘superior’ at someone else’s expense out of the way, and once I also accepted that Chabad do some awesome, tremendous mitzvot in the world that NO ONE ELSE IS DOING, not Breslov, not anyone, I started to realise that in so many ways, it’s a red herring.

          So, they have a mistaken idea that the Moshiach can be reincarnated. We all make mistakes! We all have funny ideas! Sooner or later, as this process continues, they will wake up.

          There are plenty of Jews stuck in galut who don’t think the Rebbe is Moshiach, and who are a million miles away from a kosher lifestyle and Hashem. Why make such a big deal out of some misguided souls in Chabad?

          There are misguided souls in every stream of yiddishkeit today. Breslov also has a ‘lunatic fringe’ of people who wrongly believe the Saba is the Moshiach. Every group of Jews today has its meshuggas, it’s problems. We are all crazy, all flawed.

          Why keep harping on other people’s problems at this stage? There are consequences for everyone. The consequence of believing that geula begins in New York may be that you miss out on geula in Israel. Maybe that’s the tikun for that person, who knows?

          Is it sad for them? Yup. But do I have to keep going on and on about it? Nope. It just causes bad blood and division. If that person does mitzvot, they will still get olam haba, they will still get eternal life, even if they aren’t in Israel.

          Praying for people and understanding where they’re coming from – without getting pulled into their meshuggas – is the name of the game right now.

          Just to reiterate, whatever it is we’re pointing out in other Jews, it’s just something WE need to work on. We project our own problems on other people. That’s why it’s so interesting to read other people’s rants – it says far more about them than it does about others.

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          • Orna Nitzevet
            Orna Nitzevet says:

            Bs”d
            I agree with a lot of you write here.
            When you write about the none observant living in Galut, well that’s what is weird on.
            When you ask the Israeli Chiloni that left Israel and lives somewhere in Los Angeles for the money, how they want to keep being JEWISH between all the goiym, their answer is, no worries, Chabbad is here, when we need something they help.
            So that gives me shivers.
            At the same moment,
            I cry when copy paste this, becuase i know this is the point that let me keep speaking to them, to save at least 1. Them=anyone Jewish out there. THE YUD SHVAT that rejects ERETZ YISRAEL.
            —————————————————————————————-
            Up until the point where they still had this yearning, their prayers still ascended.
            But the day when they said, “it’s good for me here, it’s actually amazing for me, here,” – as it’s written in the Gemara, Tractate Shabbat 147b, about the 10 Tribes. [The 10 Tribes] received places that were better than Eretz Yisrael, so they didn’t want to return.

            Yirmiyahu went to bring them back, but they received such wonderful, good locations [to live in] that they said, we’re aren’t coming back. If they don’t return, there is no olam haba (world to come).

            They lost everything.
            From the Shivivei Or Newsletter, #101

            This is my reason Rivka. The Rabbi spoke about it now…but i knew this..the CHILONI family get diamond living out there in tuma…to burry them there, being lost forever. I hoped my speech, my prayer could change it.. and wake them up. if they do not do….and they are not tzadikim gmurim, they are lost forever…no olam haba. So with this knowledge, i see Chabbad as the institution that keep them out there, giving them fake feeling of safty….while praying for my own children to give them all they need=ALL THEY NEED TO KEEP OLAM HABA.

          • Rivka Levy
            Rivka Levy says:

            Orna, I hear it’s painful. But it’s not fair to blame Chabad for keeping other people in chutz l’aretz. Everyone has free choice. And there are also a lot of Chabad people who have moved to Israel.

            Global statements and generalisations aren’t helping anyone. Again, we don’t know what’s in someone else’s heart. Rabbi Tzvi Aryeh Rosenfeld was a Breslov rabbi of the last generation, in America. He really wanted to move to Israel, but they kept telling him to stay and teach Torah to more Jews there.

            In the end, he only moved to Israel the last year of his life, when he was terminally ill. I’m not making excuses for anyone in chul, everyone has to choose their own path and deal with the consequences of it. What I’m saying is that the best route for us to get everyone ‘home’ and to get to the next part of geula is to see the good in our fellow Jews wherever possible, especially if they are shomer mitzvot, without fooling ourselves about the truly evil people out there.

            If the ‘good’ Jews would stop being so partisan and focus only on MIDDOT, we’d quickly smoke out the horrible Jews on all sides of the equation who are the ones dividing us, causing machloket, and using our arguments as a diversion to cover their tracks.

            There is so much bad that needs challenging. We need to focus on what’s really ‘bad’ not all this nitpicking about stuff that really is not a big deal. Sending you love, Orna.

          • Rachel in NY
            Rachel in NY says:

            This response is to Orna. I very often feel your words to be hurtful. There are still tzaddikim in galus, and the Shechinah is where there is Torah and yiras Hashem, and we have that too. Hashem pulls the strings, and sometimes He makes it not just “difficult” but IMPOSSIBLE to make aliya. Maybe it is a punishment, maybe it is a bracha, maybe He will shower us with the ultimate miracles of taking us out of here on eagles’ wings rather than with the praiseworthy struggle of making aliya the “natural way.” We don’t know. But YOU don’t know what is in the hearts of those who can’t get out. You don’t know how much we yearn. Hashem knows. Yes there are those who are here for the wrong reasons, there are those who are complacent. But generalizations about everyone outside of Eretz HaKodesh are hurtful to those of us who are here because Hashem, for whatever reason, wills us to be, at this time. I do not believe that anyone who is in galus by choice will be persuaded by calls of “wakey wakey” because they are ASLEEP and want to STAY asleep. Those of us in galus NOT by choice cannot move any faster on account of your warnings. So the whole argument is, in my humble opinion, pointless. Hashem will do as He sees fit. It will be for our ultimate good. Of this I am sure.

          • Rivka Levy
            Rivka Levy says:

            It’s very easy to hurt other people via email and internet and social media. I’m sure we all do it all the time, even if we don’t think that we do. I’m sure I do it all the time, too.

            Maybe, can we make some sort of agreement that all of us, across all the blogs we visit and comment on, will stop trying to pull down Jews with different opinions as a knee-jerk reaction to make ourselves feel better?

            I know we’ll all see huge blessings, if we can manage to start doing that. I’ve wasted so much of my own time nursing hurts inflicted by psychos with a keyboard. There’s a lot of things we need to work together on, a lot of strength we need to gain from each other.

            Maybe, it really is time for us all to stop trying to score points and waste so much time being angry and self-righteous about other people’s meshuggas, and to just try to understand more, forgive and let go.

            All of us have our hurts we are nursing behind the scenes. And more often than not, that is why we lash out at others.

    • Rivka Levy
      Rivka Levy says:

      Rachel, what’s the question?

      Rav Berland has insight that the rest of us just don’t have. It also doesn’t say in the Torah specifically that we can’t eat kangaroos….

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  2. Orna Nitzevet
    Orna Nitzevet says:

    Bs”d

    Rachel in NY, don’t wake up, stay there!
    If you think i want to hurt you or feel higher then you.
    Well we are higher then you out there, but that’s just becuase we ARE IN ERETZ YISRAEL, but not becuase of ourselfs.
    Beside that, i do not know who you are in real life, so i think i suppose to give up on you, and go on with my life and fixing my own thing, just to forget about you…
    I will not come to the MITZRAIYM, i could, many years ago, but rejected my rich aunts invitation.
    So by this i let it go, that’s what you ask me, right? Will it give you peace? (peace is attainned just here..)
    To give up the YUD SHVAT.
    I hope Hashem forgive me this…now i feel like NOAH.
    For me it took years to get the tuma of galut of, and still being busy with that….
    I hope you mannage when you get the chance, take the chance when you can.
    Forgive me for pushing you to want to come to Israel, i will not do that more.
    Just on my own blog, no need to go there. I feel sad to have to write this. But it might that Rivka is right, and many will not come anyway. My parents did not…not in their then body…
    It was too late, but i managed my mother to say she want, just the day before her afterlife. May Hashem give her peace…

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