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The Rav on earthquakes and Greeks – Part One

Alexander the Great

This is an excerpt of a very long shiur I am currently translating, from two weeks ago.

It’s taking me a while, and I’m not going to post up all of it here, although I will send it to the manager of the RavBerland.com Whatsapp group when it’s done, and hopefully he’ll forward the whole thing to anyone who wants to read it.

In the meantime, this is excerpt 1.

The Rav talks more about the expected earthquakes in the next section, which I will BH put up as excerpt 2, as soon as it’s translated.



Excerpts of a shiur given by Rav Eliezer Berland, shlita, during seuda shlishi, Shabbat Terumah, 5783.

(Translated from Shivivei Or Newsletter, Issue 300).

Once upon a time, there were Turks [in Eretz Yisrael].

It’s full of gold and silver here, wherever you dig – you’ll find crates full of gold. In the palaces of the Caesar, they found around 10 crates of gold dinaari.

Once, Elisha Shor dug in the yard. He moved – he used to live here, opposite the house. The owner of the building wanted to put on another storey, so he gave him an apartment in Beit Yisrael. And he brought two Arabs there, who dug a pit for him in the back yard – and they found a few crates of gold. These two Arabs.

If they’d have kept quiet, or they would have at least brought him some of the find… but instead, they started to argue over who these boxes of gold dinaari belonged to. So there was a quarrel, there was noise, and the police came and took all the boxes.

Because today, whatever you found in the ground, it belongs to the State.


And there was in Greece, there was the Prime Minister there.

He was an archeologist, and he was digging in the city where Alexander the Great was born. Alexander the Great was born in Greece – in Macedonia. We were there, in Macedonia. So, he was there, and he went to excavate there.

He found a few cases of gold dinaari. So, he took them for himself. And then someone snitched on him, and then he sat in jail for three years – the prime minister! He was… he was searching for the tomb of Alexander the Great.


Alexander the Great, the moment that he saw Shimon HaTzaddik, he immediately fell at his feet.

Alexander the Great was Greek, he was Macedonian. He worshipped avoda zara (idols). The Samaritans told him to destroy the Temple. There was already a [second] Beit HaMikdash, so he came in order to destroy the Temple. All of this is written in Tractate Yoma 69. Each person needs to know Yoma, and everything.

A person should see to it that by Seder Night, he’s finished the whole of SHAS – and also Yoma! All the stories, how Alexander the Great came to destroy the Temple. Because the Samaritans informed [on the Jews] to him.

They said: If there is a Beit HaMikdash, then you won’t be able to rule the world!

The whole time there is a Beit HaMikdash, so no other malchut (rulers) can control the world.

But now, we are waiting for there to be an earthquake, like there just was an earthquake in Turkey, and 10,000, or 30,000 buildings fell down. They already got to 50,000 people killed. So now, there will be another earthquake in the future, but this will only be in another 189 years, in the year 2212 – 5972.

28 years before the end of the year 6,000 [from the creation of the world]. The end of the 6,000 years will be in 2240. The fifth millenia began in 1240, so 2240 will begin the 6000.


So now, Alexander the Great met Shimon HaTzaddik, because the Samaritans told him: The first thing you need to do is destroy the Beit HaMikdash! The whole time there is a Temple, you can’t control the whole world.

Because the Jews are stronger than anyone else, the Jews…

It’s written: “The kings of the world did not believe, nor did any of the world’s inhabitants, that the adversary or enemy could enter the gates of Jerusalem.”

They didn’t believe! Not the kings of the world, and not any other of the world’s inhabitants! Because Jerusalem stood for 850 years.

Today in the HafTorah [there it’s written that the Temple was built after] 480 years. This is from when to when? From yetziat Mitzrayim (the exodus from Egypt), until they began to build [the first] Temple.

How long did the Temple stand for? How much time? You need to learn all the masechot, Yoma, Avoda Zara, to know the figures. How long was the first Temple standing? How long? 410 years.

And another 480 years. 480 and and 410 – where is the computer? Where is the calculator? 890 years!

[I.e. from yetziat Mitzrayim to the destruction of the First Temple 890 years passed, and then we need to subtract the 40 years when Am Yisrael was wandering in the wilderness. And then from the time that the Jewish people entered the Holy Land until the destruction was 850 years.]


Now, there was 70 years of exile in Bavel, so that’s 960 years.

890 years plus another 70 for the Babylonian exile, this is 960 years. Now, until we get to [the time of the miracles of] Chanuka we have exactly another 216 years. 180 years, plus another 96 [this could be an error in the transcript, and should instead read 36] is 216 years.

This equals 1176 years.

From yetziat Mitzrayim until Chanuka is 1177 years.


So now, Alexander the Great comes along. He comes to Eretz Yisrael…. and so, everyone is called ‘Alexander’.

Because Shimon HaTzaddik promised Alexander the Great that all the boys who would be born that year – that same year – they would be called ‘Alexander’.

He said: If you don’t destroy the Temple, all the children will be called ‘Alexander’.

This was the promise made by Shimon HaTzaddik, And he signed on this with a lawyer and notary. He signed it in front of a lawyer and notary. Shimon HaTzaddik promised Alexander the Great that all the children would be called ‘Alexander’.

And now, we have [the calculation we made above], that until Chanuka is 1177 years from yetziat Mitzrayim.

And now, we find ourselves at the meeting between Shimon HaTzaddik and Alexander the Great. Shimon the Tzaddik went dressed in the clothes of the Kohen Gadol, the bigdei kahuna.


To be continued…



I did a bit of rudimentary checking, and no-one knows where the tomb of Alexander the Great actually is…. which is kind of strange, given who he was.

Read this:


Also, if you follow the maths set out by the Rav, above, that makes ‘Shimon HaTzaddik’ the same person as ‘Shimon II’ – the father of the Onias / Chonyo / Yochanan Kohen HaGadol, and his hellenising brother ‘Jason-Jesus’.

We started to pull more of that side of things together in THIS post, and then especially in THIS post.

According to authentic Jewish chronology, the Exodus happened in the year 2448 from creation.

If we add another 1177 years to this, we get to the Jewish year 3625.

That equates to 136 BCE.

Alexander the Great is meant to have met Shimon HaTzaddik in Jerusalem in the year 3448.

That equates to 313 BCE.


Just pulling more of this info together, but ‘Alexander the Great’ is proving strangely hard to track down in the real world…

And that usually means there is a big secret hanging out here, that we haven’t yet discovered.



You’ll recall that ‘Alexander the Alabarch’, brother of Philo, father of the destroyer of the Second Temple Tiberius Julius Alexander, has another name: Alexander Lysimachus.

Here is where things get even stranger.

‘Lysimachus’ is meant to be one of the main body guards of Alexander the Great, who then becomes the King of Macedonia and Thrace…

Read more about him HERE.

Here’s the bit that took my eye:

He was the second son of Agathocles[5] and his wife; there is some indication in the historical sources that this wife was perhaps named Arsinoe, and that Lysimachus’ paternal grandfather may have been called Alcimachus.


We’ve come across that name, or a very similar sounding one, before.

In fact, I wrote a whole post about it a couple of weeks ago:


There, we learned that ‘Alcimus’ was a renegade, Hellenising High Priest who was fighting against Judah Maccabee.


Alcimus, united with his fellow Hellenists, launched a war against the Maccabees and fought for the primacy in Judea and for the αρχιερωσύνη (office of high priest). However, he was not able to resist and turned to the king for help.

To support Alcimus, Demetrius sent his general Nicanor in 161 BC, who was defeated and killed in a skirmish with the Jews; the day of this victory, 13 Adar, was celebrated annually in Jerusalem under the name of Nicanor’s Day.


161 BCE = 3599 in the Jewish calendar.

When did Chanuka happen?

3625 – i.e. 26 years after this ‘Alcimus’ is recorded as ALREADY skirmishing with Yehuda Maccabee.

The timing is totally off here.


This ‘Alcimus’ is meant to be the nephew of Yose ben Yoezer, who is meant to have lived between 3500 and 3560.

That is 65 years, minimum, BEFORE Alcimus his nephew, above, starts fighting Yehuda Maccabee in Judea.

Once again, none of these dates are adding up.

And once again, we are looking at a bunch of ‘Greeks’ who are apparently hellenised Jews… who are fighting military battles all over the Middle East and marrying apparently non-Jewish royalty.

Who overlap with renegade ‘Kohanim’ who are trying to start a hellenized version of Judaism, that mixes idol worship with the ‘Old Testament’…

Lots to think about here.

But not for the first time, I’m thinking our worst enemies actually come from within.

And that we actually have no idea, what was really going on in Judea around the whole Hasmonean revolt.

BH, we will continue to figure this out.


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